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There are several good features of MDI, one of which is that windows no longer need to be managed. The current MDI implementation still displays window titles for the windows, even those windows that can't be moved. Most of the windows are obvious by their contents, so unless the windows really can be moved, the titles should be removed. The most egregious of these is the output window, which has a title as well as several tabs. This wouldn't be quite as bad if I could just hit escape and have the output window be unmapped (as happens in DevStudio). The splitter bars are thicker than they need to be as well. Maximized sourcecode windows don't really need a title as well.
Version: 'Dev' -> 3.2
I'm changing status to enhancement, because this is sort of request for new functionality and shoudl be adressed in next release
Target milestone -> 3.3
Target milestone -> 3.3.1.
Target milestone -> 3.4
Reassigning to Peter. Peter, please go through and evaluate, thanks.
Reassigning back to me, I would overload you, Peter :-)
Evaluation: This enhancement has several parts: a) Quick output unmapping: is covered by separate enhancement, this is duplicate b) removal of unneeded titles: Please, I need more information from UI team, specifying when and where titlebars should be supressed. Also how you view priority of this enhancement. c) width of splitters: I need UI team opinion also, I think splitters are narrow enough, narrowing them even more would make other enhancement, "one touch expandable" impossible to implement.
Note, one touch expandable I talked about is number 12343
Please disregard my comments about the splitter width. It is fine as it currently stands. I do think the window titles could be smaller (see JDeveloper) or be removed if the window is maximized in the MDI desktop (see J++).
In MDI we have popup menu on title bar so IMO it is better to make title bar smaller than to remove them completely for some cases. If we remove them we would loose popup menu on them. (Or perhaps make presence of title bar optional in some cases - desktop frames, maximized frames?)
IMHO: maximized frames shouldn't have a titlebar, mostly because I hate to lose a line of code to it. However -- if the titlebar served some useful purpose (drag and drop of toplevel components could be a good one) then the smaller one is OK too...
this issue will be solved as part of issue #11010 *** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 11010 ***
Resolved for 3.4.x or earlier, no new info since then -> verified.
Resolved for 3.4.x or earlier, no new info since then -> closing.