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This is followup issue from 66214 and 66933. Currently, after removal of cvs actions from document tabs, cvs actions related to the active document opened in editor are available only from main menu. While main menu is fine for greenhorns, for everyday use it is too "far away" and there is weaker asociation between main menu nad active document. I suggest to add CVS actions to editor popup menu, preferrably at the same position where it was with older cvs support. Please see 66933, mmetelka's comment for possible implementation. I'm sorry for higher priority, but I found this usability problem to be important for everyday CVS use.
Because, I am getting lost in issues regarding this feature, I would like to collect issue numbers ;) So, as decided by jrojcek (HIE) to don't remove CVS action from the editor tab's popup menu - issue 66933, here is the comment: ======================== ------- Additional comments from jrojcek Fri Oct 21 08:19:24 +0000 2005 ------- Okay it's too late for this change. We don't have time to wait for user feedback and even integrating this menu with editor contextual menu is not trivial as each editor type (Java, JSP, plain text) has different contextual menu. Also it's not yet clear what to do in case of visual editors. Dafe, please don't implement it now. ======================== The fix we would like to revert - issue 66214
The final decision is to remove the menu from the tab because it really doesn't belong there (it's only for window-related actions). It would be hard to remove it in next release because users could get used to it. Users need fast access to the CVS actions, thus they will be added to editor. It was decided on a usability meeting two weeks ago, several days after this comment.
Latest conclusion is to remove CVS submenu from editor tabs. - greenhorns can use main menu using mouse - experts can use main menu using Alt+C & mnemonic
Very very interesting, the left hand have no idea about the existance of the right one. The usability team, I would kindly ask you to inform the rest of the world about your decisions in the future. At least somebody from HIE/xDesign/UI team should know about your decisions. The current solution: I partially agree. I don't miss the CVS action on the tab contextual menu. But I think it could be better to have CVS actions accessible through the editor popup menu.
pkuzel, who made this "final conclusion"? I'm not aware of that. I'm aware that latest conclusion on usability team was to include actions in the editor tab. Is it really so much hard to implement? Every nb engineer I asked (phrebejk, anebuzelsky, rkubacki, pnejedly) told me the same opinion - they would like to see cvs in editor popup menu and found it usability gain. I don't want to heat the discussion more and I agree that I didn't express usability team conclusion well, so I won't reopen myself...but I have strong feeling that our cvs support will be crippled a bit if things stay in current state and we will regret it later. I already saw one user's report annoyed by non existence of cvs submenu in editor area popup menu. pkuzels arguments doesn't sound compelling to me, as they don't cover majority of users. There is a large group (I'd say over 50%) of everyday users which use mouse, "click and go" approach.
I tend to agree regarding editor pane popup. Please file RFE/bug for editor module to address it at right place. Here you lob for the action on (possibly inactive) document tabs. The final decision comes from the UI spec, it was updated and communicated by Jano. Sigh.
I really don't know why this issue is closed as wontfix. Everybody agrees that CVS submenu should be in editor pane popup and the same is expressed in the summary of the issue. Are there any obstacles or UI decisions which prevent you from fixing this issue? As I understand from issue 66933 it should be enough to add CVS actions to Editors/Popup folder in layer.
I think I caused this confusion. We agreed on CVS i-team to remove CVS actions from editor tab. Then I filed the bug to remove it from tabs. Then we had a discussion about possible impacts in the usability team and decided to not do it for 5.0, but I forgot to inform CVS team. So they removed the action from editor tabs. Okay that was the whole story. And now I will prepare a mini spec how to integrate CVS actions into editor tab. Ccing Talley to inform him about this late UI change.
For future releases, the CVS menu should be present in Editor popup menu. It is too late to fix it now so in the meantime, we will put CVS menu back into Editor tabs.
Maros, I don't think this is an enhancement. From discucion above I've got feeling, that HIE (Jano) will prepare mini-UI spec and we do something with current state, because now CVS actions are accessible only from main menu, and IMHO nobody agreed with this, if I understand it correctly.
"... we will put CVS menu back into Editor tabs." I already did that.
Yes, we decided to not do it for 5.0 and move back CVS actions into the editor tabs. This is the final decision. It appears to be quite complicated at this point to add CVS actions into all editors, form editor and other visual editors like ejb-jar.xml etc. Thus we won't do it for 5.0. As CVS actions are back in editor tabs now, I think marking this as an enhancement is approriate.
Well, I have to agree. I've tried to run NB4.1 and CVS actions are also available only from tab popup menu, so I hope our users are getting useed to this place for such actions. Thanks for your patience.
Great, I am more than glad that we finally came to a conclusion.
This is showstopper, fix this also to release50_beta2 branch, please.
Fixed in trunk.
Verified in NB 200511091900.
Integrated into release50_beta2 branch. /shared/data/ccvs/repository/openide/text/src/org/openide/text/CloneableEditor.java,v <-- CloneableEditor.java new revision: 1.9.2.1; previous revision: 1.9