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Bug 61401 - Netbeans 4.1 on IBM Laptop with ATI Radeon unusable
Summary: Netbeans 4.1 on IBM Laptop with ATI Radeon unusable
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: platform
Classification: Unclassified
Component: -- Other -- (show other bugs)
Version: 4.x
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P2 blocker (vote)
Assignee: _ rkubacki
URL:
Keywords: PERFORMANCE
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2005-07-26 12:08 UTC by heinzdoerr
Modified: 2008-12-23 00:16 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description heinzdoerr 2005-07-26 12:08:52 UTC
HI,
just got a new Labop (IBM T43, 1.5GB, ATI Radeon 700 Graphics card, fast CPU, 
XP Swapping disabled). I installed java sdk 1.5_04, netbeans 4.1.
Installation is fine, netbeans starts just fine,
When I try to edit a jsp or a .java file:
- the editor needs MINUTES to start !!!
- to change the text cursor poition takes about 1 (ONE) minute
- any menu popup also takes around a minute (I'm NOT kidding, I mean minute 
not second, not milliseconds)

This behaviour is consistent - there is no swapping issue or what ever, 
garanteed!

The same project, libraries ... on my desktop machine runs w/o problems

I reinstalled Java and netbeans several times, tested to make a new web 
project, created a jsp file - same issue!!!

I switched to the Java 1.4.2_b08 : problem gone (I think you know Netbeans is 
slow, but here we talk about a magnitude of 100 faster)

Eclipse and other java appls are running on the laptop - no problem,
unfortunatelly I've no other swing apps instelled on the labtop!


I'm nt sure what kind of issue that is - for me it's a total defect, netbeans 
editors are 100% unusable on that machine.
Comment 1 Marian Mirilovic 2005-07-26 15:29:46 UTC
It seems like there is some general problem. Have you seen it just with JDK
1.5.0_04 ? If I understand it correctly , it dissapears on JDK 1.4.2_08, 
Am I right ?

It could be problem with drawing, so try to put the switch on your command line
(or modify netbeans.conf) :
-J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
Comment 2 Antonin Nebuzelsky 2005-07-26 15:37:07 UTC
heinzdoerr, does the following blog entry answer your problem?
http://www.digitalearth.com.au/2005/05/06/netbeans-display-woes/
Comment 3 heinzdoerr 2005-07-26 16:42:36 UTC
By the way it is a ATI Mobility Radeon X300 (not 700).

Yes the resolution from the digitalearch page helps (the Dell and IBM having 
the same Graphics card). Thanks a lot for the hint - (I didn't find it with 
google)

I needed to switch the Radion Graphics card to high performance mode.

hope the following helps other people with same issue:


there are 3 possible solutions to this performance issue:
=========================================================

1. java 1.4.2_08
================
works if no java 1.5 feature needed (a little bit slower than 2) or 3) but ok

2. with java 1.5:
=================
make sure that the graphics accelator is switch to high performance. Good 
performance but the problem is: power consuption goes up, batterly life goes 
down and even worse, the the fan gets louder - and that all to draw 60 lines 
of colored text !!! Unacceptable - a 3 GHz processor can't render text (0.02 
page updates per second) -  a big java idiot in my opinion

3. with java 1.5:
=================
I've tryed the -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true proposal with the graphics card 
switched to best battery life: results in great 
performance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've just added that switch to my desktop PC (3GHz Pentium, Matrox G550) 
responsivness of netbeans 4.1 / java 1.5 is getting BETTER !!!!
THIS IS THE ONLY REALLY GOOD SOLUTION - mmirilovic thanks for the proposal!!!

--------- Thanks for the extremely fast help - great ------------

Comment 4 Tomas Danek 2005-08-01 09:15:09 UTC
Consider as solved, closing.