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Bug 23897 - Import Management Wizard: Terminology mismatch on Step 2
Summary: Import Management Wizard: Terminology mismatch on Step 2
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: java
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Unsupported (show other bugs)
Version: 3.x
Hardware: PC Windows ME/2000
: P4 blocker (vote)
Assignee: John Jullion-ceccarelli
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2002-05-23 11:25 UTC by eadams
Modified: 2007-09-26 09:14 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description eadams 2002-05-23 11:25:34 UTC
On step 2 of the Import Management Tool the text mentions a "Maximum
Frequency" and the label for the corresponding column is "Final FQN Freq."

Seems like these should be the same phrase.
Comment 1 Tomas Hurka 2002-05-28 08:57:21 UTC
John, 
can you please check it? I think that the current text is correct, but I am not sure. Thanks.
Comment 2 John Jullion-ceccarelli 2002-05-28 10:43:44 UTC
Maximum FQN refers to the IMT settings in Options window, 
Final FQN refers to the number of FQNs in the source file 
after the tool is run.

I'm changing the text to "Import statements are created 
when fully qualified names (FQN) occur more than the 
Maximum FQN specified in the Import Management Tool 
settings. You can override the tool's defaults by choosing 
a different action in the Action column." and closing 
issue, please reopen if you feel this still isn't clear 
enough.
Comment 3 eadams 2002-05-29 02:35:43 UTC
Thanks.  The new text improves things.

Here are some more suggestions for improvements:

1) Explicitly mention the value of the Maximum FQN.
   Something like:
   "... occur more than the Maximum FQN (currently XXX) specified ..."

2) Be more clear about how to find the Import Management Tool 
   settings.  Something like:
   "... specified in the Import Management Tool settings
   (Options|Editing|Java Sources|Import Management Tool Settings)"

3) Better than 2) would be a link or button that would take
   you directly to the Import Management Tool settings and
   better yet would be to allows the user to change the Maximum
   FQN setting in the IMT (I think Svata mentioned something
   about this in one of the other bug reports).  This suggestion
   is outside the scope of this bug report.
Comment 4 John Jullion-ceccarelli 2002-05-29 09:15:03 UTC
I'm concerned about loading down the IMT with too much 
text. It's already a full 3 lines! Also, this is all 
documented in the Help topic - all they have to do is 
press the little button (which developers hate to do, I 
know :-)

About suggestion 1: Maximum FQN would have to be dynamic 
to reflect the current setting, don't know if that's 
possible. A better solution would be 3, which can't be 
done now and should be done as a more thorough reworking 
of the IMT.

Aboout suggestion 2: Again, I think there's lots of text 
in this wizard but if people feel strongly I'm willing to 
add it.

Comment 5 eadams 2002-05-29 09:50:03 UTC
Too much text is a valid concern.

Suggestion 1) does not add much text, especially if you
drop the "currently".  IMHO this is the most important
one.  When you first use IMT, you have no idea what the
Maximum is set to.  It should be possible to dynamically
get the value.

I agree that 2) adds alot of text.  

A really cool technique would be to make "Import Management Tool 
settings" a hyperlink that takes you to the right place in Options.
That takes us directly into 3).
Comment 6 John Jullion-ceccarelli 2002-05-29 11:58:05 UTC
How about this instead?

"Import Statements are created when fully qualified names 
(FQN) ocur more than four times. You can override the 
tool's default actions by changing the values in the 
Action column. You can also change the default threshold 
in Options | Editing | Java Sources | Import Management 
Tool Settings | Maximum FQN." 
Comment 7 Jan Becicka 2002-06-27 13:20:07 UTC
John, can you explain, what was exactly fixed? 
Thanks.
Comment 8 John Jullion-ceccarelli 2002-06-27 14:03:19 UTC
The explanatory text on the wizard was made clearer. The original issue was confusion between the IMT 
settings called Maximum FQN and the column in the wizard named Final FQN Frequency. I changed the text to 
make it more clear. 

Evan then suggested we mention how to open the IMT settings in the wizard's explanatory. Text. I proposed 
some other text, but there have been no more comments on it. IMO we should leave it as it is. No other 
wizard dialogs mention how to reach the Tools | Options settings that control them, and the wizard 
already has a ton of text on it. And it's all explainged right behind that little Help button, if 
users weren't afraid to look :-)
Comment 9 Jan Becicka 2002-06-27 14:46:17 UTC
OK OK.
Thanks.
Comment 10 eadams 2002-06-28 00:23:32 UTC
The most important aspect of this issue is to communicate
the maximun FQN.  John, you had suggested adding the Maximum
FQN to the text:

    "Import Statements are created when fully qualified names 
    (FQN) ocur more than four times. 
                         ^^^^
Is there a problem doing this? 

The current text is virtually the same as the old text.  For
comparison here they are.  Old text:
    By default, import statements are created when
    fully qualified names (FQN) occur more than the
    Maximum FQN specified.  You can override Import
    Management TOol defaults by choosing a different
    action in the Action column.

Current text:
    Import statements are created when fully qualified
    names (FQN) occur more than the Maximum FQN
    specifed in the Import Management Tool settings.
    You can overried the tool's defaults by choosing
    a different action in the Action column.

Comment 11 John Jullion-ceccarelli 2002-06-28 09:40:00 UTC
Yes, we can change it. But we should consider that the 
sentence is only big enough to say one of the following 
about the Maximum FQN:
* Its default is four.
* It's set in the Import Management Tools settings.

I think a third sentence is too much text for the wizard. 
So if you're fine with just mentioning the default number 
and leaving it up to the user to find out where this 
default is set, then I'll go ahead and change it. I think 
this would be fine, as the number of defaults is more 
immediate of a concern than where to set them (although 
they are obviously linked).
Comment 12 John Jullion-ceccarelli 2002-06-28 12:13:20 UTC
Added "(default = 4)" to the resource bundle. This solves 
all the issues.
Comment 13 Quality Engineering 2003-07-01 13:15:48 UTC
Resolved for 3.4.x or earlier, no new info since then -> closing.