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In many cases output window does not provide important information for the user to display, yet it is forcibly displayed and focused upon every upload. Due to other usages of Output, the screen might be very large in size plus the close button is very small -> upon each upload there's user overhead of trying to hit the close and going back to work again. It would be nice to have option to display Output only when there's been error or any other uncommon situation.
FTP specific, reassigning.
Well this works as designed since uploading files to a server is operation that needs your attention. But perhaps a checkbox "Show log only on error" could be added (but hard to say where exactly - to IDE Options? or as a project specific opetion?). Feel free to reopen and provide your comments. Thanks.
(In reply to comment #2) > Well this works as designed since uploading files to a server is operation that > needs your attention. It would seem to me that this is your opinion and therefore not a feature of the design. Furthermore when you have directly requested the upload of a file it seems unlikley that you would like to be notified of the event, especially when you are not provided with an opportunity to cancel it. >But perhaps a checkbox "Show log only on error" could be added Maybe, but when an error occurs the user is already shown an error dialog, this could be amended with the text 'see log for further details' if needs be.
> Furthermore when you have directly requested the upload of a file it seems unlikley that you would like to be notified of the event, especially when you are not provided with an opportunity to cancel it. However this only relates to manual uploads/downloads, Tomas is right that with "Upload on save" use could be notified that some remoteServer modifying operation has occured. On the other hand it might not be in a form of a popping up huge box covering a portion of a screen and moving and closable by a tiny little x (those closing [x]'s in NB are indeed quite a counter-strikey thing) ... more like some message in statusbar maybe?
> Well this works as designed since uploading files to a server is operation that > needs your attention. If upload on save is enabled, it's just a "save" operation. And same as I don't like a "Yes your file was saved successfully" I wouldn't like to see a "Yes your file was saved AND uploaded successfully".
I would like to see this be an overall IDE options setting. Why would I care or want to have my workspace cluttered up when everything is working correctly? Just give me a popup if something goes wrong. You could even show the output if an error occurred, as should this happen I'm going to want to see what happened. Thanks to the developers for such an awesome product.
(In reply to comment #3) > It would seem to me that this is your opinion and therefore not a feature of > the design. Not true. This feature has be designed and implemented this way so it works as expected. > Furthermore when you have directly requested the upload of a file > it seems unlikley that you would like to be notified of the event True but only for cases when there is no error. > especially > when you are not provided with an opportunity to cancel it. But in the FTP library we use (already reported). > Maybe, but when an error occurs the user is already shown an error dialog Not always (for example, when a file cannot be uploaded due to incorrect permissions). > this > could be amended with the text 'see log for further details' if needs be. Unfortunately this does not usually work for new NetBeans users since they don't know what it means exactly; also there is more "logs" available in NetBeans. Anyway, I will try to review possible options for NB 7.2 and improve the current behaviour. Thanks for reporting.
(In reply to comment #4) > On the other hand it might not be in a form of a popping up huge box covering a > portion of a screen and moving and closable by a tiny little x (those closing > [x]'s in NB are indeed quite a counter-strikey thing) ... more like some > message in statusbar maybe? What else do you suggest? Some of you don't want the log to be visible at all, others don't want the popup dialog.
(In reply to comment #6) > I would like to see this be an overall IDE options setting. Why would I care or > want to have my workspace cluttered up when everything is working correctly? > Just give me a popup if something goes wrong. You could even show the output if > an error occurred, as should this happen I'm going to want to see what > happened. As I wrote, I will try to review all the possible situations and improve them for NB 7.2. > Thanks to the developers for such an awesome product. Thanks a lot for your positive feedback!