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Bug 181018 - pointing on some comfortableness from older versions eliminated in new versions
Summary: pointing on some comfortableness from older versions eliminated in new versions
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: editor
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Completion & Templates (show other bugs)
Version: 6.x
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P3 normal (vote)
Assignee: Dusan Balek
URL:
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Reported: 2010-02-21 18:11 UTC by j-lover
Modified: 2010-06-18 01:46 UTC (History)
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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description j-lover 2010-02-21 18:11:43 UTC
as i started java programming a few months ago, i was using the version 1.4.2 of java and and netbeans 3.6 ,after stoping for a while I migrated to up to dated versions,now im using the latest.
there were some nice features for me in the earlier version of NetBeans dont exist in new versions : 

1-in the editor options ,i could set the blink speed of the caret even to Zero(not blinking) AND

2-I could make the font size of editor bigger.

3-when i tried to create an instance of some class 
( for example : " Example e = new Example(); "  ) after typing "new" and following by a space,there were suggestions from javadoc that listed all constructors documentations,just like when we type a dot ( . )and after that, any corresponding classes,methods,interfaces,instances... appeares.

4-in that old version,when a documentation guide(from javadoc-for example after typing "." )window poped up , this window(or tooltip,i dont know what exactly is its name,sorry),by scrollin the editor,it didnt disappeare,while in new versions it goes away !

the first issue was very important to my sight

actually i think that version provided more (even i can say Full ) control over the IDE

best regards

esmaeil ashrafi
Comment 1 Vitezslav Stejskal 2010-02-22 04:27:22 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> 1-in the editor options ,i could set the blink speed of the caret even to
> Zero(not blinking) AND

You can customize this manually, see for example http://notesmine.com/netbeans_cursor


> 2-I could make the font size of editor bigger.

You can do this in Tools-Options -> Editor -> Fonts & Colors


> 3-when i tried to create an instance of some class 
> ( for example : " Example e = new Example(); "  ) after typing "new" and
> following by a space,there were suggestions from javadoc that listed all
> constructors documentations,just like when we type a dot ( . )and after that,
> any corresponding classes,methods,interfaces,instances... appeares.

Please press Ctrl+SPACE in order to show codecompletion. If CC does not work in certain situations the way you would expect, please file a separate defect under Editor -> Completion & Templates.


> 4-in that old version,when a documentation guide(from javadoc-for example after
> typing "." )window poped up , this window(or tooltip,i dont know what exactly
> is its name,sorry),by scrollin the editor,it didnt disappeare,while in new
> versions it goes away !

This was confusing and many users considered this a defect. If you like having javadocs handy for things (classes, methods, etc) that are under the caret you can open the Javadoc window (eg. Window -> Other -> Javadoc).
Comment 2 j-lover 2010-02-22 07:16:42 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
thank you,but :

> You can customize this manually, see for example
> http://notesmine.com/netbeans_cursor
>
i checked that out,but in version 6.8 on windows xp os,i couldn't find something near those paths you mentioned

however i think it wasw better netbeans developer team made some options to users for this subject...just like that old version !  
> 
> You can do this in Tools-Options -> Editor -> Fonts & Colors
>
you are right 
I checked that part before very carefully...but i was looking for something like that version,and this time i found that i should press that button to browse the font properties :)
but still have some issue :
consider i want to make all items a little bigger....and what can we do !?
this is good to have ability to change property of each item seperately,but in case i mentioned.... :(
> 
> Please press Ctrl+SPACE in order to show codecompletion. If CC does not work in
> certain situations the way you would expect, please file a separate defect
> under Editor -> Completion & Templates.
> 
Thank you so much.that was exactly as u said
> 
> > 4-in that old version,when a documentation guide(from javadoc-for example after
> > typing "." )window poped up , this window(or tooltip,i dont know what exactly
> > is its name,sorry),by scrollin the editor,it didnt disappeare,while in new
> > versions it goes away !
> 
> This was confusing and many users considered this a defect. If you like having
> javadocs handy for things (classes, methods, etc) that are under the caret you
> can open the Javadoc window (eg. Window -> Other -> Javadoc).

I didnt understand this exactly.you mean users wants that be disappeared when they move cursor ? and so netbeans developers eliminated that feature ? 
but i think you mean the window can adjusted and be appeared where the window "output" and other adjucent windows are
I completely know that where it can be reached and i used that
But still the issue remains : when you move the cursor,that previous poped up (now exists at the buttom of IDE) window will change.I know it should be like this,becouse the cursor is now on another thing

but there isnt any way to have the feature like the past ?
if no,then i want to consider ths as a defect !

and finally 
dear friend,I'm so happy someone cares about these issues,cos before i came here i placed this subject to some forums and no1 answered
however i have some questions about this "bugzilla" system,if you please guide me i,ll be more thankful :
some options i cant find out,what should i select,for example 
: "Periority" , "Target Milestone"
and another thing : Who checks these issues,these bugs,defects,etc ?

at the end i should appologize for my bad English

thx
Comment 3 Vitezslav Stejskal 2010-02-22 09:59:53 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> i checked that out,but in version 6.8 on windows xp os,i couldn't find
> something near those paths you mentioned

First of all, you have to find Netbeans userdir - use Help -> About and in the dialog search for 'Userdir:'. In the fresh installation this folder is fairly empty. The best way is to change something in the IDE (eg. View -> Show Line Numbers) and make it create the config folders hierarchy. After that there should be <userdir>/config/Editors/Preferences/org-netbeans-modules-editor-settings-CustomPreferences.xml and you can add <entry javaType="java.lang.Integer" name="caret-blink-rate" value="0"/> in it.


> however i think it wasw better netbeans developer team made some options to
> users for this subject...just like that old version !  

The general policy is to have as little UI options as possible unless there is a considerable number of users requesting some option. Regarding caret-blink-rate there have been a few requests, but the majority of users seems to be happy with the default value.


> consider i want to make all items a little bigger

Tools-Options -> Fonts & Colors -> All Languages -> Default is the default font inherited by all the other colorings (items).

> I didnt understand this exactly.you mean users wants that be disappeared when
> they move cursor ? and so netbeans developers eliminated that feature ? 

Yes, that's what meant. AFAIR there was a defect complaining about having the code completion popup windows shown while scrolling the editor. We agreed that this was a defect and fixed it.


> But still the issue remains : when you move the cursor,that previous poped up
> (now exists at the buttom of IDE) window will change.I know it should be like
> this,becouse the cursor is now on another thing

I'm sorry, I don't understand. But as I said before, if you have a problem with code completion, please create new issue and describe in steps what you do, what you expect the IDE to do and what it actually does. Please avoid mixing several problems in one issue.

Also, there is nbusers@netbeans.org alias with a community of Netbeans users, who can answer question related to using Netbeans IDE.

> what should i select,for example : "Periority" , "Target Milestone"

Please leave these set to the default values. They will be set to a proper value by a person who reviews the issue.


> and another thing : Who checks these issues,these bugs,defects,etc ?

Quality engineers, developer and/or other people actively working on Netbeans. You as a submitter is expected to participate in verifying issues that you submitted. However, we know that people are busy and our quality engineers usually take action when an issue is left unverified for a long(ish) time.
Comment 4 j-lover 2010-02-22 10:53:58 UTC
thank you so much
all my problm was solved(except those i like to be and others dont like ;) )
and there were not a long time issue is left unverified , just one day,and you replied,so thank you very much

best regards
esmaeil ashrafi
Comment 5 j-lover 2010-06-18 01:46:37 UTC
I just want to correct one of issues i reported as a defect:
I was mistaken about code completion! that replied to me, i should press ctrl+space to expect IDE to pop up the code completion window, but after that, i checked the tools > options > code completion > Auto Popup Documentation Window can be checked and it will work without pressing ctrl+space and just upon typing.

this was argued in items #3 and #4

Best Regards

Esmaeil Ashrafi