[nbusers] Re: Search results in 7.2

  • From: Jaroslav Havlin < >
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  • Subject: [nbusers] Re: Search results in 7.2
  • Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:22:55 +0100
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Hello,

I've implemented the changes in Search Results window for 7.2 and I'm quite sorry that you are not comfortable with it.

On 29.10.2012 23:13, crebegea wrote:
I am aware of this solution. The thing is, I don't find it so satisfactory. 
You have to do some eye travel, whereas in the old one, all that was 
interesting was in one place. Hey, if going through all the scenario, if you 
make the columns too close, you end up with cut filename. If you make the 
columns bigger you end up with white space.
I like the current solution, as the corresponding values are aligned in columns. I find this way more readable, although it is less compact.
Problem is that matched line does not use width of the whole table (colspan), but I hope this will be improved in the near future.

For the greater flexibility, these are to me just features to fill the sheet, 
or that came from a developer zeal (if I can do it, that why not). I do not 
want to offend anyone, I am also a developer, I know how it is. I explained 
in the first post why I don't like it in the new one and it isn't just things 
of esthetics. I just find it quite less optimal. And it is a shame to have a 
good thing and break it for no real reason.
The changes were initiated by requests for enhancement (i. e. by community) which I think were quite reasonable:
http://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=190352
http://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183121

It is an annoyance for me and if my input could help improve things in some 
way, than there it is.
Sharing ideas usually improves things :-) So thank you for your feedback.

Now, how is it in 7.2? You can display the path and matches, but the column 
arrangement is not in the least optimal.
I've considered and discussed some other solutions (having some sort-by combo box at the top of the window; some options in the context menu of the root node), but showing the data in a table with customizable columns and sorting appeared to be the most intuitive and handy way.

Please don't mention the folder ierarchy style of displaying as I don't think 
there is someone keen on clicking tens of times to get to the results from a 
whole project. Offering a maximum of information at a first glance is capital 
in my day to day coding.
Of course, folder hierarchy is an alternative view requested by people that work on very big projects. It doesn't try to improve readability, but rather navigation.

And I didn't find mentions about this change. Other than the release info, 
almost nothing, and I'm quite suprised, is it that noone else is bothered by 
this?
It was mentioned here: http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteworthyNB72#Search
The change could be seen in development builds before 7.2 was released. As far as I know, there were no other complaints.

What can we do?
The advantage of open source software is that you can do quite a lot.

Can we change this? is there an extension?
There is probably no extension for this, but if you are enthusiastic, you (or someone else) can create one using Search in Project API (http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/org-netbeans-api-search/overview-summary.html).

Can we convince you (sure, I mean the one's responsible with this thing) to 
change it back?
Frankly, not easily, as changing it back could be seen as regression by some users.

You can always create a request for enhancement (http://netbeans.org/bugzilla/) and convince others to vote for it.

I would suggest this enhancement: If some of columns are not visible (path, number of matches) the values could be shown in the first column, right after the file name in parentheses (like in 7.1).
If you like this idea, or if you have a better one, please fill a request for enhancement. I or someone else will evaluate it. If it is reasonable and technically possible it will be implemented in some of future versions.

Thanks for your comments.
Kind regards,
 Jarda Havlin


[nbusers] Search results in 7.2

crebegea 10/29/2012

[nbusers] Re: Search results in 7.2

Geertjan Wielenga 10/29/2012

[nbusers] Re: Search results in 7.2

Benno Markiewicz 10/29/2012

[nbusers] Search results in 7.2

crebegea 10/29/2012

[nbusers] Re: Search results in 7.2

Jaroslav Havlin 10/30/2012

[nbusers] Search results in 7.2

crebegea 10/30/2012

[nbusers] Re: Search results in 7.2

Jaroslav Havlin 10/31/2012

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