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Bug 63070 - No tooltips in new options dialog
Summary: No tooltips in new options dialog
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Alias: None
Product: platform
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Options&Settings (show other bugs)
Version: 5.x
Hardware: All All
: P4 blocker (vote)
Assignee: rmatous
URL:
Keywords: UI
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2005-08-25 14:57 UTC by _ rkubacki
Modified: 2008-12-22 21:01 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: DEFECT
Exception Reporter:


Attachments
Screenshot after fix (60.61 KB, image/jpeg)
2005-09-12 09:54 UTC, Roman Strobl
Details

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Description _ rkubacki 2005-08-25 14:57:29 UTC
The old options UI infrastructure based on property sheet provided tooltips to
give hints about meaning of various options. This is not present in new options
dialog.
Comment 1 Jan Jancura 2005-08-26 14:53:16 UTC
You are right. Old options dialog was confusing and thats why tooltips were
needed. But attaching tooltips to each label in dialog is not a good practise,
and it should not be needed in the new OD.

If user do not understand some option, she should go to Help.
Comment 2 _ rkubacki 2005-08-26 19:12:14 UTC
I do not agree. Where is the UI specification? I would like to see confirmation
from our HIE before we close this as invalid.

At least advanced options should have the capability to add tooltips. Even
current set of options presented here contains some uncertain items and there is
no contextual help.
Comment 3 Jan Jancura 2005-08-26 22:04:44 UTC
1) Options Dialog has been reviewed many times by HIE - there is no such
requirement.
2) Your request is very strange. Do you see some example of such UI (tooltips on
labels, input lines) in NetBeans? I do not. Have you find smething like this in
UI guidelines?
3) Advanced Options has support for tooltips, see Options Dialog API.
4) Contextual help is planned, but its different issue.

If you are not sure about some UI patterns contact HIE first, please. Than you
can fire bugs...
Comment 4 jrojcek 2005-09-02 10:18:19 UTC
Radim, I'm not sure whether you complain about missing infrastructure for providing tooltips or you 
think that a specific option in the new options dialog should have a tooltip. If the latter, please list 
those options you think are hard to understand without additional information provided via tooltip (and 
reopen the issue ;-).

Overall I think if it's not clear what an option does, there should be a tooltip that better explains the 
option's purpose. Clicking help is too complicated and slow.
Comment 5 _ rkubacki 2005-09-02 11:57:33 UTC
Nice to hear your agreement. So here is my opinion

General 
- package view has to be most important option but it is not quite clear for
newbies IMO but I do not have strong opinion here
- proxies should have tooltips to be consistent across the IDE

advanced
- some of Ant options may be more clear w/ it
- form/mnemonics deserve tooltips IMO
- everything in i18n category except the 1st checkbox is dark

Other tabs are much more understandable.
Comment 6 Jan Jancura 2005-09-02 14:10:20 UTC
Speaking about consistency, I think that its not a good solution to put tooltips
on some options only. If some option is unclear we should improve its label.

As far as I know using tooltips for labels inside of dialogs is not a common
practise (at least on windows). You can try some applications, if you have time.
Tiiltips has some usability problems. They are opened automatically, even if you
do not want to see them. ANd they sometimes hide some important information.
Thats why some special mode with tooltips has been used in some windows
applications (there was special button with arrow and question mark). But as I
know this pattern is not used any longer - it was not successful probably.

Comment 7 Roman Strobl 2005-09-12 09:54:02 UTC
Created attachment 24693 [details]
Screenshot after fix
Comment 8 jrojcek 2005-09-21 11:57:05 UTC
In native Windows applications you have a question mark button in the title bar of dialog windows. This 
button is used for instant access to additional information about components in the dialog. AFAIK  we 
don't have that in Java. Other OSes (that don't have that button as well) use tooltips for access to 
additional info. Thus we should use tooltips, but only if additional info is needed.

Roman, what does the last attachment have to do with this issue? (Wrong issue?) Thanks.
Comment 9 Roman Strobl 2005-09-21 12:07:13 UTC
Yes, wrong issue, sorry.
Comment 10 Jan Jancura 2005-09-21 13:39:51 UTC
OK, Jano. You are UI engineer. But I really do not see tooltips for labels /
text fields in windows application. But anyway. 
If you think that some component in new OD needs tooltip, be concrete please.
Comment 11 Jan Jancura 2006-06-11 15:45:45 UTC
Fire concrete issues for concrete labels / panels in Options Dialog please.
There are several modules contributing to OP.