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Bug 39327 - Install Preview should preview all action he does
Install Preview should preview all action he does
Status: NEW
Product: installer
Classification: Unclassified
Component: NBI
All All
: P3 (vote)
Assigned To: Libor Fischmeistr
: 39354 174118 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
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Reported: 2004-01-28 18:08 UTC by zikmund
Modified: 2014-02-10 14:15 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description zikmund 2004-01-28 18:08:20 UTC
Build 200401271900-ismp5:

Missing these information in preview panel:
- file associations (none/which one)
- creating desktop icon (even it can't be changed)
- creating menu items (even it can't be changed)

Notice: it's good to tell the user (developer)
what will be done, not to surprise him.
Comment 1 George Hernandez 2004-01-29 01:30:37 UTC
The actions done behind the scenes are to generate a desktop icon and
3 start menu items. I'm inclined not to add this information to the
preview panel for three reasons. First is cluttering the panel, second
is that it's done behind the scenes and third is that I think most
installers don't tell you they are doing this. So you don't really
know that the actions take place unless they fail. Maybe the solution
is not to show the warning messages? What do you think?

However, the associations are shown to the user, so I would agree that
they should be shown and will start impementing that section and await
your comments on the other things.
Comment 2 zikmund 2004-01-29 09:01:21 UTC
OK, I understand though I don't agree in full, let me explain:

1) Our Installer's users are developers (me, you) or administrators
(e.g. in schools) who are at least advanced Windows users -- they know
how to install a program, how to add icons to desktop and how to
manage menu items.
2) These users like to know what's happening with their system when
they install a program

But anyway
3) Look at other install programs of common products like Winamp,
Winzip, Winrar, CuteFTP, CloneCD etc. - they ask user if they want to
  a) add desktop icon (using checkbox)
  b) add menu items (using checkbox)
  c) where create menu items (All users vs. personal user profile)
  d) menu item name with possibility of choose the submenu by typing
     "Development Tools\Java\NetBeans" (this behavior have the newest
     and best installers I know)
  e) file associations (we have them too)
  f) shell integration (we don't need it)

This describtion is a ENHANCEMENT - I'm planning to add it already for
a week (no time yet).
BUT I think, that the first step is to say the users which actions
will be done -- I don't agree with your argument to have the smallest
information in the panel -- RIGHT solution (in my opinion) is to have
a good information structure. I can look at other installers to take
some ideas next week -- but I'd prefer to write it there now and later
discuss the changes of information order etc. (do you agree?).

I think that solution of adding two more lines with text about menu
items and descktop icons additions doesn't take too much time and it
awakes confidence in the users to NB installer.

Well, now it's on you to have arguments against this.
Comment 3 George Hernandez 2004-01-30 18:03:09 UTC
I've implemented the file association information in the preview panel. 
I'll also add the following line in the preview panel if we all (HIE,
DOCS, QA, Eng) agree that it is the right thing to do.

"The installer will also attempt to create a desktop icon, Start Menu
items and a Product/Version registry key for NetBeans IDE 3.6."

I will place this information at the end of the panel. However, I
would like to get HIE and docs to look at this wording. One other
thing the installer tries to do is to update the add/remove uninstall
info with an icon and the product name. I don't think this is
important for the user to know since the uninstall item will be added
no matter what but the updates I try to add may fail.
Comment 4 Patrick Keegan 2004-01-30 18:26:57 UTC
The wording looks good. I'd suggest a few tiny changes:

"The installer will also attempt to create a desktop icon, Start Menu
items, and a product/version registry key for NetBeans IDE 3.6."

One question: It's just one registry key (combining product and version)?
Comment 5 George Hernandez 2004-01-30 19:08:33 UTC
The product/version registry key is:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\NetBeans IDE\3.6
Comment 6 Patrick Keegan 2004-01-30 19:18:29 UTC
Great, the text is OK then.
Comment 7 George Hernandez 2004-02-03 22:27:59 UTC
The file association information has been implemented in the
installers. The additional info has yet to be implemented but since
the additional info is behind the scenes information that the user has
no control over, I think I can downgrade this to a P3. If you
disagree, please readjust the priority.
Comment 8 George Hernandez 2004-03-02 05:38:57 UTC
I didn't get the time to fully implement this so it will need to wait
till the next version. The install preview message should be:

"The installer will also attempt to create a desktop icon, Start Menu
items, and a product/version registry key for NetBeans IDE x.x."
(where x.x is the version number)
Comment 9 mslama 2005-02-11 12:49:23 UTC
It is more like RFE. We do not have file association panel in
installer anymore. Do we want this? Or do we want to make Desktop icon
and Programs menu item selectable? It would probably mean additional
panel or put it to some existing panel eg. Preview Panel (I would have
to check other installers where they put it.)

Something like (in Preview Panel):
[check box] Create desktop icon
[check box] Create programs menu item

By default it could be checked.
Comment 10 mslama 2007-02-07 17:16:08 UTC
Please evaluate.
Comment 11 Kirill Sorokin 2007-04-09 10:23:29 UTC
Jano, could you please comment on this? IIRC you objected against implementing
this, thus I'm curious what to do with the issue. Given its age it should be
P-10 by now... ;)
Comment 12 Alexei Mokeev 2008-10-30 09:58:45 UTC
*** Issue 39354 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 13 dlipin 2009-10-08 20:32:29 UTC
*** Issue 174118 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 14 Jiri Rechtacek 2012-10-07 12:58:48 UTC
Assigned to new owner.

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