Using a build from the web-main builder: http://bertram.netbeans.org/hudson/job/web-main/
1. Start a fresh build
2. Go to Services tab
3. On the Servers menu, choose Add Server...
=> The list only contains GlassFish v3 Prelude, but no other servers. This makes the situation worse than before,
because now when the Servers node is present by default, the user is lead to believe that it can be used. But it can't.
The workaround is to go to go to the New Web Project wizard, press Next to go to the second panel, and then press
Cancel. After this, all items are visible in the Add Server dialog.
Ergonomics-related, works fine without ergonomics.
I want to fix this problem by enhancing the dialog when no server is available.
This is the current dialog:
and this is the version that I propose to show:
in case we are in ergonomics mode, no server plugin is enabled yet, but we know there are available.
Petr H. mentioned yesterday that it might be better to embed this new dialog into the subsequent wizard. But that
would require more richer API between the server module and the providers of the messages. We can think about
improving the behaviour in future, but for beta I'd rather apply this simplistic solution. Which is not looking bad at
Created attachment 79885 [details]
The patch that I'd like to apply soon
1. I would like to see check boxes instead of radio buttons in the 'dlg-future'. I don't see a reason to prevent a user
from activating both clusters/plugins/whatever in a single operation.
2. What will happen if I activate one 'usage'... and then realize I want to activate the 'other' usage? I think some
users will get stuck... they will:
1. start the IDE,
2. activate a usage via this new dialog
3. experiment with those kinds of projects
4. decide they want to try the other kinds of projects
5. end up stuck, since they cannot get that handy activate these servers dialog to appear again...
BTW: I honestly do not think that the proposed changes really address the issue as originally presented. I think the
filer's initial expectation could be summarized as follows:
After I download and install the NB 6.7 bundle that includes server run-times and install that bundle, including the
server run-times, I expect to see the servers registered and 'ready to start' (or whatever), immediately after I start
the freshly installed IDE.
I think these changes will lead the user to a place where they are not completely lost, though... There is an action
that they can take to get to the state they initially expected to be in, without having to switch to a completely
different center of focus (dialog/view/etc.) and return to their current center of focus.
Re. "checkboxes" - not possible for beta, needs yet unknown API contract.
Re. "use case" - imho already solved in issue 161664
Btw. "big picture" - we are also working on Welcome screen redesign which will make all "Server node" issues far less
As far as I understand all the comments (here and in emails): So far we all think the
solution is better than current state. I see that as the most important impulse, as this is P1 bug.
Integrated into 'main-golden', will be available in build *200904111401* on http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/nightly/ (upload may still be in progress)
User: Jaroslav Tulach <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Log: Proposed fix for #162274. Looks OK, but was not reviewed yet by Petr and Petr (phejl and pjiricka).